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Title: Front mudguard mounts
Description: Mudguard mounts that move with steering


XenonJohn - December 15, 2009 11:26 PM (GMT)
Hi,

Can anyone give advice (or photo even better) on the best way to fabricate some front mudguard mounts that turn with the steering?

I have seen various attempts in the past, and also first hand experience of people getting out to bend their mudguards up again so they stop rubbing on the wheel (funny noise plus lots of smoke).

Also, I want them to be rigid enough to stop whole fibreglass mudguard shaking itself to dust.

I just wondered if anyone had any pearls of wisdom before I have a go at doing this.

Best wishes

John

xstore-guernsey - December 17, 2009 09:55 AM (GMT)
the fronts on mine were bolted to the back plate on the hubs with thin tube pipe. they never bent but my mudguards were just alloy sheets. i am going to try and run it on the road over here without them fitted. only 35mph limit, so no stones in the face to worry about!! (i hope)

caloun - December 17, 2009 09:40 PM (GMT)
whoops

100bob - December 18, 2009 05:56 PM (GMT)
I've not made any, so I can't really say. But all the Lotus 7 styled kits have them and no one seems to have a problem, lots of Fug owners have problems, why is this? The ones that came with my Fug were rubbish, but the rest of the build was pretty good and the wiring, my main weakness, was amazing, which was a bonus. This is in no way ment as a dig, just a thought to see how westfield etc do it.

Knighty - December 23, 2009 03:42 PM (GMT)
My fug came with some already fitted, and although this sounds a bit gash, it has not gone wrong.....they simply welded some 10mm solid steel bar to the back of the cast iron beetle hub assembly :( .......also a bit of advice from my mates who used to race locosts (caterham 7 type thingys)- the sign of a good cycle wing brace is one that you can do a one handed chin-up on!!!.......but as they are a bit low, just try sitting on it........dont get clever and start trying to make a super light weight one as it will only a matter of time before it fatigues/cracks then falls off.....but its your choice at the end of the day!

100bob - December 23, 2009 06:13 PM (GMT)
Have to agree with that, when the front axle weighs more than the engine, saving a few pounds with a light weight bracket would be a mistake waiting to reveal itself into the loss of a mudguard. :unsure:

Tigger - December 23, 2009 07:30 PM (GMT)
Mine are bolted to the original cailper mountings via a welded bracket. The tubing supplied with mine was I think the original 12mm diameter and about 2mm wall thinkness. Seems absolutly fine and do not 'wobble' on the road after 3 years....even after regular blats over a ton B)

XenonJohn - January 1, 2010 10:46 PM (GMT)
Thanks everyone.

I have cut off my chassis mounted front mudguards as a deliberate act so I now have a good incentive to do this job and get it right.

I will spend some time with cardboard sheets making templates to test out ideas before I start welding anything.

Happy New Year

John

silv - January 10, 2010 05:24 PM (GMT)
Post some pictures when they're nearly done, John.

Cheers
Paul

XenonJohn - January 12, 2010 12:28 PM (GMT)
Mudguards nearly finished. Metalwork done, just need paint and general tidying up.

The cold weather with completely still air and no wind is actually quite good for welding!

I have put some pics of the creation of the new cycle wing mounts here. As usual has taken much longer than expected.

The pictures are on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/uvafugitivepr...ome/cycle-wings

As well as reading all your advice, I looked at some "seven" sites and also the Robin Hood kit car bolt on designs as a guide and then did something similar but "beefed up."

Used 3mm thick 1 inch box section for the main uprights - cut and shut to avoid tyres and then thick solid bar just for the top part which bends over the wheel under the mudguard.

The uprights are welded to plates which at the moment just bolt to back of hubs using 3 big lengthened bolts coming from inside the drum assembly. Plan was to weld these plates as well around outer edges to brake backplates but to be honest they seem very rigid as they are.

Metal was all offcuts from a local metal supplier - £20 cash.

Rubber tap washers as spacers between bolts and fibreglass.

You have to measure things carefully: Low headlights look good but then if headlights are too far outboard the mudguards will hit them on full lock. However if you mount them too far inboard then you can't get the bonnet off! You solve one problem and create another......

John




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