Title: fuel tank
bobacat - July 5, 2005 06:58 PM (GMT)
does anyone know if you can still get the fuel tank for a fug 2 or the dimension and spec of it?
Can you squeeze small shell seats behind the main one in a fug 2 ?
carbs what the best way to go on 1600 twin port ?
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dvd8n - July 5, 2005 07:22 PM (GMT)
I had my tank made for me by Demon Tweeks (do a web-search). It wasn't any more expensive than the UVA one. You can have it the size and shape that you want. I got a tall thin narrow one that fits on top of the two middle tubes. Mine was simple enough that I could describe it over the phone, but you may need to draw a more complicated one.
I can post a photo if you want.
However, I found it a little small and am thinking about fitting a different one or a second (reserve) tank - I've not decided yet. So - think about how much petrol (in gallons) that your design will hold. If you are trying to fit child seats then you may not have a lot of room, so may need to compromise.
As for those seats - I think that you may be struggling - but I guess it depends how big you all are (I'm 6' 2"). You may have more options with your upright seats and raised roof. You could think about something small over the gearbox area but you would need to close off the engine fan area really well (fingers) or maybe fit type 3 cooling. You need to think about seat belt ancorages too.
Anyone know what the current fashion is in twin-carbs?
Knighty - July 6, 2005 03:20 PM (GMT)
for your information, my engine is about 95Bhp (1.5 alfa-sud) and my tank on the fug-4 is about 20 to 25 litres.........if I'm honest with you, I think its too small, as I need to fill up about every 3 short trips out.........the fug-2 has a much longer nose than a fug-4, hence use the space wisley, and make a nice big tank, about 40 litres would be ideal........ you dont need to keep it brim-full all the time, but it will come in dead handy for those long trips, as to be honest I am forever 5hitting myself that I will run-out of fuel whenever I'm on the motorway.
hope this is of help
knighty
dvd8n - July 7, 2005 09:19 AM (GMT)
This is the tank that Demon Tweeks made for me:

My records show that it cost £160, which is more than I remember (I think that my subconcious edits these prices for me so that I can sleep at night). I reckon it'd be more than £200 today.
It measures 180x300x460mm which works out about 25 litres or 5 gallons. It's fine if you are just blatting around the local area but not good if you actually want to
go anywhere.
It has a single outlet, a breather, a screw cap with splash bowl and a sight tube. I'm not sure about the value of that now; the simplicity of it appealed to me when I ordered it but it turns out that you have to get pretty close to
see the level of petrol in the tube, so it's kind of hard to check on the motorway ;)
Another problem that I have is that it sits right by my left foot so I have nowhere to put my foot when it's not on the cluch. Anyone else suffer with that?
Somewhere in my shed I have one of those huge cylindrical spun aluminium jobs that you see in all of the ads in Hot VWs; I bought it at a hot rod show years ago but never did anything with it. My plan was always to mount it behind the seats (above the gearbox) as a long-range tank but leave it empty most of the time and just use the smaller one. But it turned out to be one of those jobs that never got done.
fugepilot - July 7, 2005 09:11 PM (GMT)
Plastic anyone? :unsure:

I also got tired of enforced motorway service station visits with old 20L job, so fitted this little beauty in behind front seats - 30 glorious litres. Had to cut a hole + fit my fuel guage and happily it reads full range :D as opposed to the 3/4 best I could manage previously.
Which carbs?....Well I've been happy with the performane of my 34 ICT Webers and the music they make. I am slowly getting used to 30 mpg :( , particularly when I consider the horizontally opposed nature of the engine: it seems only natural to feed each side from its own carb. The alternative single carb approach requires the inevitable long manifold - which is non-optimal from what I've read.
dvd8n - July 8, 2005 07:36 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (fugepilot @ Jul 7 2005, 09:11 PM) |
Plastic anyone? :unsure: |
At one time plastic petrol tanks were specifically forbidden by the Constructions And Use Regulations. I assume that this has been relaxed now as there are so many modern cars that come with plastic tanks as standard.
I notice that you're using a log rather than a Fugitive to display your tank, too. Are you off the road as well?
bobacat - July 8, 2005 10:18 PM (GMT)
Does anyone know what the standard petrol tank looks like.
One problem though is my spare wheel is in the nose at the moment.
I presume this is where it normal lives? Also the battery lives here currently?
I could speak to the local plastic place as they may do protyping fuel tanks . They certainly do lots of protyping stuff for Lotus and Ford amongst others.
I have seen some US plastic tanks $85 plus shippment.
I want sender and breather and recyle for the electric pump.
fugepilot - July 10, 2005 10:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (dvd8n @ Jul 8 2005, 07:36 AM) |
| I notice that you're using a log rather than a Fugitive to display your tank, too. Are you off the road as well? |
Happily, I am very much on and indeed off the road: see squashed sump plate pic below, which resulted from Friday nights off-road thrash back through the forestry from the pub - three-up. :ph43r:

....and the new tank is installed but I have yet to bolt it down.
bobacat - July 11, 2005 08:18 PM (GMT)
Fugepilot what make of seats have you got in the front look good
Are they confortable ?
rough cost
I need to get some.
I have been look at the RCI poly seats in the states which are reasonable priced and functional. Supposed ok to sit on ??? they do have covers like the original fug seats but are high back $45.000 plus shipping each
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?...p2.asp&N=400379
fugepilot - July 11, 2005 09:30 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bobacat @ Jul 11 2005, 08:18 PM) |
| what make of seats |
Bob, the pilot seat is 'Huntmaster' in when got car - with a 2" thich stiffish foam insert down my back: it is very comfy, otherwise after an hour shoulder/back pain.
Passenger seat was about £100 (shop-soiled) on a visit to Demon Tweeks. I hear it is suprisingly comfortable. The make OMP.
Those seats through your link look a bit of allright, cheap as chips too as long as you live in the US.
bobacat - July 19, 2005 04:28 PM (GMT)
FP where did you get your plastic fule tank?
Not had much luck with the plastic manufactures but I have got my mate Ian on to look in to it as he gets involved in robots for the motor industry so has some contacts
I am tracking down those USA plastic seats there are retailer over here stocking them.
some guy at a Cobra meet told my brother he bought them in the UK so some one is selling them.
I need to learn to weld for mods etc.
is mig the way to go?
cheers
fugepilot - July 19, 2005 06:48 PM (GMT)
Bob - got the tank here:
http://www.nfauto.co.uk/cbs_products2.htm but also considered those on offer here:
http://www.streetstyleandpower.com/publicR...394&cfid=534949The latter 'SS + P' link, I've bought quite a bit off - and even, now I think on it :huh: , a tasty Spark-Arrester Exhaust System...sorry Bob, although I'm sure the BBTs one will be just as good. :) :unsure:
As to welding I believe MIG is easier but Arc is stronger and more artful.
dvd8n - July 19, 2005 07:47 PM (GMT)
In my experience mig is miles easier than arc, especially on thin metal. I've not used my arc set since I got my mig. Arc comes into it's own on really thick material, however - but we're talking about armour plating here - not stuff that's common on cars. Go for mig. And get a gas mig, too - the gasless migs aren't as good.
You can mig aluminium, too, with a bit of practice.