What do most of you use pedal wise?

i've got what looks like a bug pedal assembly with mine :huh:

haven't got as far as seeing how it will go in yet though

Yeah thats what i thought but i keep seeing all these Hydraulic pedal assemblys.

What about running the cables for the clutch and throottle, anyone?

I build one myself, for throttle you can use bicycle brake-cables.

for the clutch I used a master cilinder from BMW 3series from about 1986....

slave cilinder from audi-tt but you can buy one from cbperformance or something...

That's a nice bit of fabrication, looks good B) .

I was wondering if anyone had used an external slave cylinder to actuate the arm outside the bell housing?

I'm not sure what the best way to "house" a cable for the clutch is.
Maybe a few of the original bug outer cable sections could be used? :huh:

my mate reckons that boat suppliers came make cables to your own spec quite easily B)

i've got hold of a passat 'box with hydraulic clutch which neatly bypasses the problem ;)

except thati need to find a different pedal assembly.......D'oh!!!!! :rolleyes:

HA HA HA HA :lol: :lol:

We've already got the boxes for both of them so it's a vw route for us. ;)

yeah mine came with a bug 'box but i just like being different :rolleyes:

not heard of any 16v fuges so thought it'd be worth a go :ph43r:

Yeah that'll be something to see :D

and hear!!! 16v on carbs with a straight through exhaust..... :ph43r: :wub: :lol:

I use the UVA hydraulic pedal assembly - with hydraulic clutch, and twin hydraulic brake master cyclinders with a bias bar system - its quite nice and smooth - If I was in your situation I would bin the standard beetle master cylinder and scour ebay for a secondhgand/new hydraulic pedal box assembly - with a brake bias set-up.......the UVA set-up is quite "racey" and very good for tuning the brake bias as I needed to in order to get my car to handle properly under braking.......but very similar to whats available off the shelf from the pedal box manufacturers elsewhere

I recently heard the "pull" slave cylinder on the clutch arm is commonly available from Wilwood - as people use them on bike engine conversions for a "pull" hydraulic clutch instead of cable.......but I also think the likes of BBT sell them too.......I think I need to upgrade the size of my clutch master cylinder as it currently has too much pedal travel.

ref your other question about engines - I think Steve-T was telling me he nudged about 100mph with his standard 1600TP after it had just been sorted out........anyone that knows me knows I will tell you to start looking at the carbed 1.7 alfa 33 engine on an adaptor plate........118bhp as standard on twin 40's - it will fly :blink:

Now that sounds good, are there many, or any, og fug hyd- pedal boxes about?

I was thinking that a slave could be mounted from either side of the clutch lever arm on a bracket, so either pull or push could be used. :unsure:

As for the Alfa engine i saw a rail at the volksworld show with an alfa engine in and it sounded sweet.

I think to start with though we'll stick to a vw unit to keep it simple then maybe upgrade later B)

Thanks for the info :)

I think the slave must be mounted on the gearbox side - as you need some robust mounting points to attach it to - and theres plenty on the gearbox side - I think the cover plate bolts are the ones to use.

as for pedals - heres an old advert, worth checking before you go any further

http://forums.fugitives.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=31

otherwise scour the kit car suppliers for a bias bar pedal box assembly - I know Luego do one - you could go either floor mount or top mount - your choice.

or - if you fancy a bit of fabrication - visit www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk and buy the bias bar assembly (£30) and all the other associated bits and fabricate one up........but first try matey on the link above and ebay

Thanks for the tips, i've mailed the guy with the add. ;)

Out of interest who is the cheapest supplier of pedal assemblies in the kit car world?

Is there a major supplier or is it all the individual manufacturers?

Thanks again.

try Luego :-

http://www.luegosportscars.com

I am looking at a Luego magazine advert picture of a floor mounted bias bar pedal box, also with hydraulic clutch - if its from Luego - its as cheap as it will be, as they are the lower end of th kit car market.........and it costs £329.....ouch

as a comparison Empi (sold by BBT in their catalogue) do a dual hydraulic brake and clutch kit that also includes the clutch slave cylinder for £250......but I dont know if it is an adjustable brake bias system?....

:o Jeez :o that's a lot of dough for some pedals :huh:
Looks like it's fabrication time. <_<

exactly - you can buy the balance bar, reservoirs and bits from:-

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/BRAKE-HY...4aa8462d9b6e023

balance bar is £38, each master cylinder is £36 (x3), plus the clevis bits and bobs at £3 each (x3).......so all in, you could buy the bits for £155 then fabricate the pedals and brackets yourself - and your sure it will deffo fit that way........but hopefully matey still has his UVA items still for sale :D

http://www.csp-shop.de/cgi-bin/shop2/shop_...tnr=12292a&pn=0

copy this link.

it's in euros. so that will be around 160/170 pounds.

(you can use orig. brakelines/hoses )

easy if youre going to make your own pedal assembly.

I got in contact with him and he's sold the pedal box, but does still have two fug 2's that will be for sale when he can manage to. :mellow:

Does anyone have a standard cable clutch set up? :huh:

Just out of interest like :huh:

mine came with a bug 'box and standard clutch set up. i can have a rummage through the bits box and see what's there if you need anything? B)

Cheers that would be super cool B)

Even if i can just see how it was done so i can adapt some bug ones :)

I could do with decent pedals to replace the beetle cack I have at present but not at £280.00

any ideas

just read this and it's dark in the shed now :unsure:

will be working on the frame tomorrow so will see what i got then B)

Cheers B)

sorry dude!!! been distracted both nights........ :ph43r: :rolleyes:

will def be in the shed tomorrow and will take photos of what i got B)

no worries. :)

dude! apologies for the delay again!! finally got into the shed and dug out the pedals only to find that someone has 'borrowed' the digi cam.... :angry: :angry:

i appear to have a set of type 3 pedals and cables but will need to check with a mate :blink:

sorry this has taken soooo long dude!!! :( :unsure:

No worries, will be nice to see how it's been done when you get the digi cam back :)

Cheers

just found this advert on the www.racecar.co.uk chat forum.........

Easy 2 Fit 3 Pedal Floor Mounted Pedal Box, with Bias Bar and black powder coat.
This pedal box can be fitted with a bias bar system and dual master cylinders. This gives a twin fully adjustable braking system using 2 master cylinders. (The Master Cylinders, and Reservoirs are not Included in this kit)
This has been fitted into all types of cars from kit cars, race cars, hot rods etc. It is a very versatile system.
Pedal Box: 250mm Long x 130mm High x 130mm Deep (Approx)
Bias Bar:35mm Long Mild Steel 7/16 UNF Thread centre piece, Central Ball 25mm Radius, 2 x Aluminium Clevis with 3/8 (to fit most master cylinder push rods) Approx sizes.
This pedal box is a floor mounted Brake and Clutch unit with the Accelerator pedal dropping in from the top.
This Pedal box can come with provisions for Cable or a Hydraulic Clutch, just specify when ordering.
Stop giving yourself grief and get an easy to fit Pedal Box, this will make your life and build so much easier.
Cost: £95
Delivery in the UK: £15
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Cheers for that Knighty, i've emailed him for more info.

Sounds like a good little set up, at a reasonable cost.

Here's the pedal set up


This is the bias bar


£110 delivered not bad :)

If looks are anything to go by - it should work a treat!.......looks like a nicley engineered and well finished piece of kit.......the fact that its floor mounted is a real bonus - as most kit car stuff is top mounted. check it fits on your available floor-pan area before you splash the cash ;)

I modified a beetle set up and then used twin brake cylinders and a brake bias bar from Merlin Motorsport in mine. This seems to work ok. Using a 911 gearbox I was stuck with cable clutch.. :( There are lots of kits out there, but pricey...I saw one that looked as if it was suitable and copied it :D

I would build some sort of bias in there from the start as the fug is soooo light on the front any decent pull up on the brakes will have you skidding off into the bushes :o

I'm not that convinced of the stability of a bias bar type set up as have looked at the way it works and thought there could be variable consistancy during use.

So i swatted up and yes there is , racers do find slight changes and slipage.

That's why i'm going to build one of these into the front line.

Very adjustable and constant in performance.
Plus no need for a second master cylinder.
Also like the look of these

And these

So i might have to fab up something a bit snazzy B) :ph43r:

I've built in a value as well as the bar, it gives you that edge and you are right it helps to take out the mechanical slippage you get solely with a bar.

Last time I looked a set of pedals with all the bits to go was 400 quid plus hence why i built my own. Worth it though.

I totaly agree, that's why i'm going to make them (three sets) fro the rails instead of spending out for each one.

I wonder if i can use some of the Titanium that i've got lying around :unsure: ^_^

:D B)

don't use this one !! if you adjust it for hard braking, it would still lock up in the front.

if you would adjust it soft the front wheels can't brake so hard because they are limited by this thing.

so still locking up front or with emergency/panic braking the rear wheels will lock-up... try to pull your handbrake at 60mph....



new idea !!! same brake-calipers on the front and the back ???