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squirrel - November 4, 2007 10:43 PM (GMT)
a couple of pics and a vid of my latest toy.......
for those that dont know its a stretched fugitive 4 with a 1.7 110 bhp alfasud spint engine and has disc brakes all round ... and not a lot else :icon_biggrin:

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Knighty - November 5, 2007 11:47 AM (GMT)
smart!......I notice you heve given it a lick of paint, looks much better!......did you see my reply to your other thread?

http://forums.fugitives.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=709

not the first time its been off-road!

how comes your exhaust is flaming?......think you might be running a bit rich there!........also, I have a 1.5 alfa boxer, which is very similar to your 1.7.......when I bought it, it had a very similar exhaust to yours, with a pair of cherry bombs pointing upwards......in short it was terrible, no back pressure and WAY to loud......it didnt do anything untill about 3000rpm, and it drank fuel - badly.

I have since made a new set of pipes and used a pair of harley davidson silencers, now drives like a dream, still plenty of noise from the pair of twin 36's......just thought you might like to know!.......are those silencers straight through? or do they have some wadding/mesh, so you can't see all the way through them?.......if you have the latter, I think you will be ok.

so are you gonna come to the stoneleigh show in may/June 2008?

ps - by the way, your 1.7 engine on twin 40's is the 118bhp spec, I can see its post 86 as it has the hydraulic heads.......probably over 120bhp with that exhaust........I have a 1.7 waiting to be installed......oooooh - cant wait :D .........bloody fantastic little motors

squirrel - November 5, 2007 09:58 PM (GMT)
the cans only have a basic silencer in them so i am looking into doing something else at some point.
whats this show then ?
and i think this is a different buggy to the one you know of as i had an email off some bloke telling me he built it and then streatched it about 12 years ago when it wasnt very old due to accident damage.

100bob - November 6, 2007 09:39 AM (GMT)
Mine blows a little fire on occasion,which is never a bad thing,unless it's burning the valves out that is! I wanted a flame kit on mine,but my mate that I built it with pointed out that maybe I should grow up! :( I really don't agree,I'm only 40,what would possibly be childish in me wanting one :blink: Don't care,I'm fitting on now. That said if that's not a flame kit on yours,which I think it is really ;) a little tune up might help :D

squirrel - November 6, 2007 02:29 PM (GMT)
it is what happens when you land hard and the dizzy jumps round a bit .... did look pretty cool though :D

squirrel - November 14, 2007 01:29 PM (GMT)
does anyone know where the engine number is on these alfa engines as i want to retime it and so i know for getting bits.

squirrel - November 14, 2007 07:05 PM (GMT)
ok then i have found the engine number and its a 307-37 so i think that makes it a 1990-93 1.7 110bhp. but it started off as an injection one i think by that number( it now runs the webers). if anyone can correct me or tell me more that would be great.

Paul - November 14, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
Well I know the one I have (literally) sitting about is a 305.50 so a quick google on "305.50" and "alfa engine" in google gives :

http://www.alfisti.co.uk/BoxerA-Z.htm

I've used this site before, probably pretty reliable and the above page has the following list of engine codes (amongst other info) that would seem to point to it originally having been injected :

Engine Number Identification-. 301.02 - Single carb Sud 1.2 63hp
301.04 - Sud 1.2 ti 68hp
301.02/S - Sud 1.2 60hp
301.84 - Sud 1.3 74hp
301.60 - Sud Super 1.35 70hp
301.64 - Sud 1.35 75hp
301.68 - Sud 1.35/Sprint 63hp
301.24 - Sud 1.5 ti/Sprint 83hp
301.28 - Sud 1.5 ti/Sprint 95hp
301.46 - Sud 1.5 ti/Sprint/33 105hp
310.00/305.00 - Arna 1.2 60hp
310.10/301.68 - Arna 1350 Gti 85hp
310.16/305.20 - Arna 1500 Gti 95hp
305.00 - 33 1.2 68hp
305.02 - 33 1.3 75hp
305.04 – 33 1.5 ti 84hp
305.20 – 33 1.5 ti 90hp
305.50 – 33/Sprint 1.7 114hp
305.58A - 33 1.7 ie Kat 105hp
307.43 – 33 1.2 78hp
307.32 – 33 1.3 86hp
307.34 – 33 1.5 105hp
307.50 – 33 1.5ie 96hp
307.51 – 33 1.5ie Kat 95hp
307.46 – 33 1.7 16v 137hp
307.36 – 33 1.7 ie 110hp
307.37 – 33 1.7 ie Kat 110hp
307.47 – 33 1.7 16v Kat 132hp
307.55 - 33 1.3/1.4 IE specific to Greece and runs the Bosch L-Jetronic 3.2
335.01 – 145/146 1.3i Kat 90hp
332.01 – 145/146 1.6i Kat 103hp
334.01 – 145/146 1.7i 16v Kat 129hp

Cheers

Paul.

squirrel - November 14, 2007 08:47 PM (GMT)
that looks a usefull site. cheers.

squirrel - November 24, 2007 09:05 PM (GMT)
thought i would post a couple more pics of it out and about.

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fugieian - December 16, 2007 12:04 AM (GMT)
very interesting the alfa info,a few years ago at newark kit car show there was a ferrari replica,dino i think,running an alfa 33 16 valve engine on twin 44idf webers,the inlet manifolds were a commercially avaliable part,really sounded good,i know paul has a spare one,hmmmmmmmm?.

Paul - December 16, 2007 10:08 AM (GMT)

Fugieian : Still got the Afla lump if you want it.

It needs to go as I need the space in the new "Casa Del Fugitivo" (garage) - that's been the main project recently, now gives me somewhere waterproof to work on the Fug.


squirrel - December 17, 2007 12:11 AM (GMT)
at the bristol christmas cruise today.

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