Hi,
I am interested in getting my grubby mits on a fug. I have found a fug4 which has apparently been on the road in the past but is requiring a bit of love at the moment. The V5 says 'VW twin axle rigid body'. Is this the correct description or would it require an sva at somepoint?
cheers

I'd ask more questions.

My V5 says twin axle rigid body too, but more important is that the make is UVA Fugitive 2 and it has a note which says Rebuilt - assembled from parts.

Mine was originally just registered as a VW Beetle which I notified them as having been rebodied, but I was advised to register it properly as a Fugitive before SVA came in to avoid possible problems with having to SVA it subsequently. I did this and it was dead easy (at the time!) It wouldn't be now - although not impossible I believe.

Be very very careful……..when so called “experts” started building/assembling their fugitive, in order to save the cost of Q-plating, they would simply take the number plate from the donor beetle and slap it on the front and rear of the fug!.......may have been acceptable 10 years ago, as I have heard about some rule regarding if you use the same engine and gearbox bla bla bla……dunno if its true or not

Now lets say you have a bad crash in the fug and someone gets hurt……then Mr plod and the insurance company type in the number plate into the national database…….and up pops the ID of a VW beetle……hmmmmm……in short your gonna be in big trouble.

You must ask to view the V5 registration document.

I personally think that if you buy a car as mentioned above with a number plate from say a K plate 1972 bug…….you will need to SVA approve it eventually.

Otherwise, buy a properly Q-plated fug, that was how it was supposed to be done properly back in the late 80’s / early 90’s

That's true to a cerain extent - you will probably find that a Q plate will be properly registered. But one with the donor car's plate may be too.

At first I just kept my registration and told the DVLC of the new body type and colour and was sent a new V5 by return. But it really was bending to the limit a sysem designed for the days of coach-built cars where you'd buy a chassis from (say) Bentley and take it to a coachbuilders to get a body built onto it. And then, a few years later when you were bored, you got a new body.

But then, just before SVA, I decided to do it properly (just in case). I came clean and told them it was a kit-car and I was visited by an official from the DVLC. She looked he car over and identified major components and their sources. Points were awarded according to their origins and the number plate allocated accordingly. Mine had enough points and was allowed to keep the donor's registration. As it wasn't pre '73 I didn't really care either way as it wasn't going to be tax-exempt. So I didn't apply any pressure - I was just allowed to keep the old number.

It was a dead easy process, a lot easier than the SVA. The examination was totally non-engineering related - I got the impression that if I wanted to break the law then that was between me and my MOT station and the next bobby that I passed. I didn't even need to take my car to them - they came to me!

I'd have advised anyone at the time to do it properly - it was no hassle at all. I'd suspect that anyone not doing it had a reason - trying to keep tax-exempt status or somesuch.

You might as well bite the bullet now...methinks. <_<

Your V5 description sounds the same as mine when I first got it.
I tried angling for the noddy inspection dvd8n mentions - the lucky man.
Crucially, his is different with the all important prior pronouncements of
the DVLA-machine: such that, it is deemed a UVA product (not knocked-up in the
back yard) and is already in the class of 'Rebuilt - assembled from parts' thus
needs not be scrutinised (i.e. SVA) to determine this.

All roads (excert for the lucky very few) lead through the eye of the SVA needle
I'm afriad you will find :( .

However :D , it is easy to pass if you pay attention to detail while playing by their rules.

Cheers for the help. I think Ill leave this one as it needs quite a bit of work and whilest im not bad at puting rally cars back together when I nock them about Im not sure about a rebuild of a fug to SVA standard. Ill continue the search for a Q plate.

Hi i obtained my fug with id of beetle etc last year. Iwrote to dvla about the change of body gave a description of the car supplied photos and photo copied MOTs to prove the car had been on the road.
i invited them to insoect etc.
They did not think it was needed and re issued my v5 with the body changed to on/off road utility vehicle !!! i ve kept all documents for future reference !!! :lol: :lol:

Ha! Well done - looks like you've won a watch there!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You can actually get a non Q plated fug if you can reach a certain number of points. It's a system which relies on how many and what parts you use from the donor .
In all cases the V5 must represent a true description of the vehicle as far the insurance company is concerned.
It must state manufacture, model engine size number of seats, year of manufacture these are the important ones .

Where abouts is this fug 4 and what price are they asking ?

Bulls-dvla-eye! :D Nice one gemini.

Erm its some what sold i would say.

I left it alone after thinking about it id rather not worry about registering it as the last dealings with the dvla they dont know their arsehole from their ear hole!

I think I fancy a fug 2 more that a 4 now and possibly a nice motorbike engine thrown in too.

:o hello all, I'm new!

Found my way here trying to find out bit more about a fug 4 I've looked at tonight.

It's on a 'k',the log book says rigid body 2 axle, the reg is from a beetle.

Tha car has been MOT'd in last couple weeks but it's not taxed

Car has been on road long time ago but there's no documents to back this up

Engine & box aren't from the beetle

could I be looking at a world of pain?

Cheers,

Andy

Look at Gemini's post above - the fact that its been on the road before, and that the DVLA are a bunch of idiots, you could probably get away with telling them that the beetle has had a change of body shell.......phone the Fug-4 ebay bloke and ask him to state exactly what it says on the V5, as this may have been done already????...... if the DVLA want the original engine number..........you can buy some very nice alphabetical and numerical stamps these days!.......its only an engine number from a 40 year old motor that nobody gives a toss about, its not like you are robbing a bank..........grind it down flat, file it and sand it to a good finish, re-stamp the numbers, then throw some oil and dust over it for aging :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r: :ph43r:

Naughty Knighty! :blink: But Nice!

erm it just says 2 axle rigid body from what I remember other night

he did say not to try and change the log book as it would prob lead to DVLA probs

been speaking to a local guy who builds VW based trikes tonight, he reckons it's not too much of a problem to gain a 'Q' . Ringing him in morning for more help