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fov - May 13, 2005 07:49 PM (GMT)
Erm as the title...

I mean I have driven an astra which used to push (understeer) under most circumstances and had a tendancy to spin the fronts in the wet but very oversteery under braking, a landy 90 which is slow and pushes nearly all the time if it needs to break traction but occasionally the back will snap out in the wet because of the MT tyres and a Nova rally car which is a story on its own.

So whats a fug like to drive...

Cheers
fov

Paul - May 13, 2005 10:46 PM (GMT)

I'm sure they vary a bit but ...

My Fug 4 let go at the back fairly easily under cornering as it was running a 2lt Fiat Twin Cam. However it never snapped particularly suddenly (probably due to the wide tyres) so it was always pretty easy to recover.

In the wet they can be a real handfull though!

YMMV


fugepilot - May 14, 2005 11:16 AM (GMT)
Going on experience of my fug4 - They are exellent to drive! :ph43r:

I was a 'died in the wool' biker for 25 yrs, driving my fug is
the next best thing. Definately a half way house - goes round
corners like it's on rails. I agree with Paul it can be a handful
in the wet (rounabouts can be a lot of fun) but easy to catch
when back end breaks away. Bit like a large go-kart.

Lucky me though, having an IRS as they have the
edge over swing axle from what I've read/heard.

And then there is the offroad capability.... :D

Knighty - May 14, 2005 06:28 PM (GMT)
my fug-4 has a ball-joint front beam and a swing axle rear......I have 205/50 R15 Nankang fronts, and 235/50 R15 Nankang rears (chineese yokos).......both are quite low profile.......front suspension travel is about 2 inches.........rear is about 4........engine is a flat-4 alfa sud.......so a very low centre of gravity.........I played with the tyre pressures and front bump stops first.........and it now corners like on rails, am very pleased with it.

I must admit that when I was looking for a fug, I had the mind-set that it was IRS or nothiong.......then this fug that came along that was swing axle, so I thought I'd give it a go........and in short have no regrets.........all this bull associated with IRS being better than swing axle in terms of streed handling is more to do with the heavy bodyshells, and high centre of gravity of your averege beetle.......when in a lightweight low car such as a formula vee or a fug......the swing/IRS argument aint worth having.......it dosent matter

personally I reckon a fug-2 would understeer like a bitch, as there is less weight on the front tyres.......my advice would be to go for a fug-4, as the seating position is much further forward, therefore better weight distribution.

tom - May 15, 2005 09:01 PM (GMT)
The handling of my F4 (IRS) is much better than I thought! And it is even better than my VW (super beetle) 1303 (fitted with a heavy Ford V6) was!
But I can't give a major reason for that.
I think of small things play the game.
Cheers

Le Mans Man - May 15, 2005 09:29 PM (GMT)
Paul, does your comment "a handful in the wet" relate to the incident on the way to the ferry in 2001 when Andrew nearly collected you on the roudabout just oitside Poole? - he still mentions it to this day!

But I do understand your sentiments, even with a modest 1600 flat four in the arse of mine and 205 tyres it broke away in the wet, especially on tight roundabouts...just ask the bloke following me that time in his Land Cruiser, the look on his face was a picture as I did a 180 in front of him, stopped shaking a week or so later - dam glad them Toyotas have good brakes. But at the same roundabout a while later in the dry I out cornered a mate in a sirocco, went the long way round the outside and made it stick....cool!

cheers! Adrian.





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